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| Session Start: Fri Jul 20 09:26:59 2007Session Ident: #futurestrades |
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<X> | [NihabaAshi] #FuturesTrades info @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/FuturesTradesChatRoom.htm and trade log archives @ http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrades.htm |
<venedom> | GM | 09:28 |
<pat255> | gm guys..@office again... | 09:29 |
<PapaJon> | gm all | 09:30 |
<base> | GM all | 09:34 |
<Awash> | good morning all | 09:35 |
* lesAway | is now known as les | 09:37 |
<RussellDaytrade> | my work suggests a possible downside near 848.5 | 09:38 |
<Brutus> | ER and options exp :) | 09:39 |
<RussellDaytrade> | I covered remaining shorts in the overnight session when I saw asia holding | 09:40 |
| stayed up too late, will be going for a nap soon, just wanted to check my trades closed...RDT is now known as RDT_napping | 09:42 |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 851.40 -> medium size | 09:44 |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 850.00 --> + 1.4 | 09:48 |
| Holding 1 contract |
<pat255> | vn niha .... |
<NihabaAshi> | Should have been short around 0934am est but had an important phone call. | 09:49 |
<venedom> | George W Nin? | 09:51 |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 849.6 «« paper »» | 09:53 |
<RussellDaytrade> | close enuf |
<les> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 848.6 --> + 1 «« paper »» | 09:54 |
<NihabaAshi> | There's no panick (low volatility) in this drop and that makes it so sneaky. | 09:55 |
| It's very orderly as if its suppose to do this accordingly to some plan. | 09:56 |
<Awash> | is that how creeper trends start? |
<les> | exit stop lowered ER2 @ 847.2 «« paper »» | 09:57 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 845.70 --> + 5.7 |
| Now the volatility has shown up...good time to dump the remainder. |
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<Awash> | nice trading Niha, that's a big grab | 09:58 |
<NihabaAshi> | Awash...it's not even a creeper trend downwards because to be a "creeper trend" there needs to be a lot of intervals with small ranges. |
<Awash> | this is selling pressure |
<NihabaAshi> | Volatility increasing more now. | 09:59 |
<les> | exit stop lowered ER2 @ 846.1 «« paper »» |
<Brutus> | Long ES @ 844.4 «« paper »» |
<les> | Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 845.9 --> + 3.7 «« paper »» |
| wrong, sorry |
| Covered Remainder ER2 Short @ 845.1 --> + 4.5 «« paper »» | 10:00 |
<Brutus> | exit stop set ES @ 843.9 «« paper »» | 10:01 |
| Im holding this till EOD unless stopped |
* subq | market profile charts, late but still good :) | 10:02 |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/07/2 0/er2_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/07/2 0/es_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/07/2 0/nq_rth_mp.png |
| http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/07/2 0/ym_rth_mp.png | 10:03 |
<NihabaAshi> | I'm officially in "profit protection mode" after the big first trade. | 10:08 |
| Thus, 1 contract only for the remainder of the trading day. |
| Long ER2 @ 845.50 -> small size | 10:09 |
| tough candlestick pattern trade (Harami). |
| It's one of the generic low reliable ones. | 10:10 |
<les> | Long ER2 @ 845.5 «« paper »» |
<venedom> | Shorts ER2 @ 845.40 | 10:11 |
<les> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 845.6 --> + 0.1 «« paper »» | 10:12 |
| Long ER2 @ 845.7 «« paper »» | 10:13 |
| Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 846.9 --> + 1.2 «« paper »» | 10:14 |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 846.70 --> + 1.2 |
<les> | Long ER2 @ 846.3 -> Add «« paper »» | 10:15 |
<NihabaAshi> | For those that read the archive chat logs at http://www.thestrategylab.com/RecentTrad es.htm | 10:18 |
| I'll have them updated tonight. |
<venedom> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 845.3 --> + 0.1 |
| too long | 10:19 |
<les> | Long ER2 @ 845.3 -> Add «« paper »» |
<jperl> | This mornings trades here.... | 10:20 |
| http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-07-20/JP ERL_0119.jpg |
| ER2 peak volume 845.60 < VWAP 848.46.... | 10:22 |
| expect return to VWAP but .... |
| There is a lot of "molasses" in the way.... |
| may be slow going |
<NihabaAshi> | ER2 volatility declining... | 10:29 |
| I'm expecting a volatility spike here soon. |
<venedom> | chop chop | 10:30 |
<les> | Exited 1/2 ER2 Long @ 846.4 --> + 1.1 «« paper »» |
<ItalianSharp> | pool is speaking right now |
<les> | exit stop raised ER2 @ 845.9 «« paper »» | 10:31 |
| Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 845.9 --> + 0.2 «« paper »» | 10:32 |
<Awash> | Shorts ES @ 1552.50 |
<NihabaAshi> | Nothing so far (volatility spike) and ranges of each interval still tight. | 10:34 |
<Brutus> | 10 y yield 4.94 | 10:35 |
<les> | Shorts ER2 @ 845.2 «« paper »» | 10:36 |
<NihabaAshi> | There's the volatility spike. | 10:37 |
<Awash> | exit stop lowered ES @ 1552.25 | 10:39 |
<pat255> | vn awash ..missed it tho myself | 10:40 |
<Awash> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1550.50 --> + 2 |
| thanks |
| we went thru LOD and bounced a bit |
| need to bank some points |
<les> | big b/down coming | 10:45 |
<Awash> | Covered all ES Short @ 1548.50 --> + 4 |
<pat255> | vn |
<Brutus> | Exited ES Long @ 843.8 --> - 0.6 «« paper »» |
<les> | Covered 1/2 ER2 Short @ 844.2 --> + 1 «« paper »» |
| more down coming i think | 10:48 |
<NihabaAshi> | Nice trade Awash. |
<les> | exit stop lowered ER2 @ 844.6 «« paper »» |
<Brutus> | Long ES @ 843.2 «« paper »» | 10:50 |
| exit stop set ES @ 842.5 «« paper »» |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 843.80 -> small size |
<les> | Trailing Stop Hit ER2 @ 844.6 --> + 0.6 «« paper »» | 10:51 |
<NihabaAshi> | This is one of those trading days we need to exploit because they can make big changes to the profit loss for the month. |
<les> | i done for today | 10:52 |
| cya all next week |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 845.10 --> + 1.3 | 10:53 |
<venedom> | Shorts ER2 @ 845 | 10:56 |
<Awash> | Niha, thanks |
<Brutus> | ER just has to clear this 846 zone |
<NihabaAshi> | New WRB s/r zone that I'm watching 845.70 - 844.90 and it may change soon after 11am est. | 10:58 |
<les> | what chart interval, niha? | 11:00 |
<NihabaAshi> | 2min |
| 3min WRB s/r zone is 845.80 - 844.50 | 11:01 |
| ER2 volatility dropping... | 11:02 |
| I'm expecting a volatility spike to push price outside the WRB s/r zone (up or down). |
| Treasury Futures in a pullback after the strong movement to the upside. | 11:10 |
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<venedom> | Covered all ER2 Short @ 843 --> + 2 | 11:20 |
<Awash> | nice Venedom |
<venedom> | ty | 11:21 |
<Brutus> | Exited ES Long @ 842.5 --> - 0.7 «« paper »» | 11:22 |
| :( was away for 5 mins and .... |
<NihabaAshi> | That's a big "volatility breakout" for those that trade volatility breakouts. | 11:23 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 839.50 -> small size | 11:28 |
<Brutus> | ER at 0711 low | 11:29 |
<NihabaAshi> | Yeah...just saw that after I got short :( |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 840.10 --> - 0.6 | 11:30 |
| Long ER2 @ 840.50 -> small size | 11:31 |
| Back to back late entries with poor rewards... | 11:32 |
| time to go to lunch and take a break from watching the charts. |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 841.20 --> + 0.7 | 11:34 |
* NihabaAshi | is now known as NihabaAshi_lunch | 11:35 |
<Brutus> | The divergence from 071107 to present of the ER to NQ and ES is huge | 11:38 |
<Awash> | what do you mean? | 11:40 |
<Brutus> | http://stockcharts.com/charts/candleglan ce.php?$INDU,$COMPQ,$SPX,$TRAN,$RUT,AAPL ,SPY,QQQQ,IWM,$VIX|B|B14 | 11:42 |
| Awash compare |
<Awash> | ol | 11:44 |
| ok |
<venedom> | nice move | 11:49 |
<Brutus> | 07/20/2007 11:50 *DJ Fed Poole: Subprime Mkt Problems Should Remain Contained | 11:50 |
<venedom> | tell that to bear stearn investors | 11:51 |
<Awash> | ES at Wed LOD | 11:55 |
<venedom> | these all started with GOOG yesterday | 12:00 |
* NihabaAshi_lunch | is now known as NihabaAshi |
<NihabaAshi> | Shorts ER2 @ 836.10 -> small size |
| Covered ER2 Short @ 835.60 --> + 0.5 | 12:02 |
<venedom> | nice and fast' |
<NihabaAshi> | I was trying to hurry and eat a fast lunch...missed getting short at 836.60 | 12:03 |
<venedom> | sushi? | 12:04 |
| Shorts ER2 @ 837.50 | 12:10 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 837.50 --> 0 | 12:15 |
| chop time again |
| protec profit time |
<intowin> | Long ES @ 1541.50 | 12:16 |
| Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1542.75 --> + 1.25 | 12:26 |
<ItalianSharp> | either the downtrend is weakening or the lunch time just took away all the volatility | 12:44 |
<Awash> | latter is more true |
| trend still in tack |
| intact |
| just going thru normal moves |
<intowin> | Exited all ES Long @ 1541.75 --> + 0.25 | 12:46 |
<venedom> | Shorts ER2 @ 840 -> small size | 12:48 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 839.80 -> small size | 12:49 |
<venedom> | the master agains the student lol | 12:50 |
| Covered all ER2 Short @ 838.8 --> + 1.2 |
| now make your master N |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited ER2 Long @ 838.90 --> - 0.9 | 12:52 |
| Reverse and Enter Short ER2 @ 838.90 |
<intowin> | Long ES @ 1541.50 | 12:53 |
| I think we chop a while | 12:55 |
<venedom> | veal 4 me pls |
<szubaark> | pretty good followthru so far |
<Awash> | yep |
<intowin> | exit stop set ES @ 1539.50 | 12:56 |
| Exited all ES Long @ 1539.50 --> - 2 | 12:58 |
| no chops for no one |
<szubaark> | follow thy Master | 12:59 |
<intowin> | hard to pass a low risk trade.. |
<venedom> | lod? | 13:01 |
<NihabaAshi> | Covered ER2 Short @ 836.70 --> + 2.2 |
| Reverse and Enter Long ER2 @ 836.70 |
<venedom> | n1 master | 13:02 |
<intowin> | Long ES @ 1539.50 |
| try again should push toward 1548 imo |
| at some point |
<NihabaAshi> | Exited all ER2 Long @ 837.90 --> + 1.2 | 13:03 |
<venedom> | nice trading N..... | 13:05 |
<intowin> | Exited 1/2 ES Long @ 1541.50 --> + 2 | 13:10 |
<venedom> | n1 in | 13:13 |
<intowin> | I hope so looking for upper 40's | 13:14 |
<venedom> | Shorts ER2 @ '839.4 | 13:17 |
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<ItalianSharp> | looks like we might have seen the bottom for a while | 13:19 |
| nice push by the bulls here | 13:20 |
* codehead_afk | is now known as codehead | 13:29 |
<Awash> | Shorts ES @ 1544.75 | 13:39 |
<intowin> | Exited all ES Long @ 1546.50 --> + 7 | 13:40 |
| close enough to 1548 | 13:41 |
<Awash> | Shorts ES @ 1546 | 13:42 |
| add |
| Shorts ES @ 1546.25 -> Add | 13:51 |
<intowin> | there is my 1548 | 13:52 |
* sep34_ | is now known as sep34 | 13:54 |
<Awash> | Shorts ES @ 1547.25 -> Add | 13:55 |
| boy did i scale into that position | 13:58 |
<intowin> | I am about to join you for the ride down A | 13:59 |
<Awash> | i'm in it to win it |
<intowin> | lol |
<Awash> | :) |
| my average is 1546, I will post exits based on average | 14:04 |
* Fleneer2 | is now known as Fleneer | 14:24 |
<Awash> | a lot of size trading in this area | 14:26 |
| a lot of size traded at 50% Retracement area of 1548.75 area (possible aggressive distribution by sellers) | 14:30 |
<intowin> | short ES @ 1547.25 | 14:36 |
<NihabaAshi> | Long ER2 @ 843.50 -> small size |
| Exited ER2 Long @ 843.60 --> + 0.1 | 14:42 |
| Lost my patience. | 14:43 |
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<jperl> | done for today....trades here.... | 14:56 |
| http://charts.dacharts.com/2007-07-20/JP ERL_0120.jpg |
<intowin> | Covered 1/2 ES Short @ 1545 --> + 2.25 | 15:12 |
<Awash> | this has been a wild ride | 15:17 |
| exit half short at 1546 (average 1546) b/e | 15:18 |
| nothing positive is coming from this trade | 15:19 |
<intowin> | yeah I am looking to get out soon. | 15:20 |
<Awash> | Exit remainder at 1546.50 (average 1546), - 0.50 points | 15:24 |
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<Awash> | intowin, now PA wants to retest LOD | 15:31 |
<intowin> | I am still in to win | 15:32 |
<Awash> | i know, you're doing awesome |
| i would have held if I got in at higher prices | 15:33 |
<intowin> | blind squirrel finding an acorn |
<Awash> | :) |
<intowin> | Covered all ES Short @ 1541.75 --> + 5.5 | 15:43 |
<Awash> | awesome |
<venedom> | homerun |
<intowin> | nice ride up and down... gotta love that |
<Awash> | i'm taking notes for next time |
| yepper |
| good trading | 15:44 |
| I'm taking off |
<intowin> | me too cya guys... |
<venedom> | cu monday have a nice weekend |
<Awash> | later |
<venedom> | bye | 15:52 |
* sep34_ | is now known as sep34__away | 16:03 |
<RONDOE> | have a great weekend everybody c-u Monday for another wild week of fun & games |
<RussellDaytrade> | most volatile day since 3-14-07...welcome to the slow summer trading season. :) | 16:08 |
* DisconnectedSession | Close: Fri Jul 20 20:47:36 2007 | 20:47 |
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